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Here's part two.  It's just like being back on the message board. :)

John Quixote

"john quixote" on the rewatch...

...although this is really more of a continued list of spotted pop-culture references to add to that already compiled by the beetle...  death by pop culture, i said.  observe:

~ first of all, the entire thing, as mentioned, reeked of the "red dwarf" episode, "better than life", which is either intentional, or a lovely coincidence...

~ the fairy tale thing.  as i'm doing something on these for my coursework i'm somewhat bogged down in them lately, so it's no surprise i spotted so damn many going on...  okay.  the whole thing is a quest, with john and chi filling medieval, 'arthurian' roles of knight and page/knave - with aeryn, of course, as the damsel-in-distress.  which then leads onto the story of 'rapunzel' (and with that hair...)  then, we had stark and his goose-with-the-golden-egg in the filing cabinet.  his manual, "a grim fairy tale".  the idea of having to kiss the princess - "sleeping beauty".  getting past the ogre - "puss in boots" (chiana, maybe?)  harvey's nose was disturbingly "pinocchio"-esque.  the crais-ogre held overtones of "beauty and the beast".  oh.  and the d'argo thing?  i finally figured it out.  "hansel and gretl", only it's the witches being eaten (willingly.  i'm not even going to go near that...) by the apparently insane german-costumed luxan... whatever, ben ;)  i don't think i want to know where gretl is...

~ right.  stark.  yay for stark!  the mask was on the wrong side of his face, as eve vehemently pointed out to me when i hadn't noticed.  he also had hair.  the only reason i can think of is that paul goddard likes having hair, and probably didn't want to shave it all off again for the purposes of one episode.  personally, i liked the hair...  his role in this was that of a shakesperian (or generally renaissance) fool and even, at one point, puck from "a midsummer night's dream" (the line in his manual that began "and if we shades..." is a direct quote from the epilogue to same...)  he was also a genie sort of figure, granting john three 'wishes' with that little ball thing...

~ the green door thing.  isn't there a song called "green door"?

~ the road they were following was coins... but it's a tenuous link to "the wizard of oz" with its yellow brick road leading to oz and ultimately the way home. [ETA: And also, as someone pointed out, Super Mario...]

~ rygel as the black knight and the inevitable monty python reference.  and he even got smashed into little pieces ;)  as for the tenuous sir didymus from "labyrinth" link, it may not be as tenuous as we think.  "labyrinth" was, after all, a production of the henson team...

~ the lift, we've already mentioned as being either max headroom or the depressed lift from "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy".  and we have the whole spiel on john's sword and him naming it either cameron (diaz) or uma (thurman) - i'm trying to find a link between the two but failing miserably at the moment.  any suggestions?  (although, now i've said that... uma thurman was in "the avengers" movie as emma peel; cameron diaz was in the movie of "charlie's angels"; aeryn can kick butt better than the two of them combined... :D)

~ this is probably just me, but... john drawing on the floor with his own blood reminded me of the marquis de sade doing just the same in "quills" (incidentally, frelling fantastic movie.  highly recommended...)

~ "gone with the wind" reference with 'aeryn o'hara' (named courtesy of t.g.u.t)  which brings me nicely onto... aeryn.  they keep doing incredibly disturbing things to her character that worry me intensely, but that's really nothing new.  the whole whose-side-is-she-on thing had me alternately going "i knew there was something up! i knew it!" followed by a very confused "oh... but... dammit..." when she helped john.  and now i’m even more confused…

~ the john/aeryn kiss in the game ('real' aeryn, not princess-aeryn.)  oh, you know ben only put that one in for the shippers... ;)

~ still on that scene with aeryn and scorpius against john - it reminded me inexplicably of "the phantom of the opera" (and on that note, the command carrier sections with gilina looked remarkably like the catacombs from the original 1925 movie of that, which i only noticed after i'd made the connection)  aeryn would be christine, stuck in between the phantom (scorpius) and raoul (john).  except as i'm a phantom/christine shipper, i'd have to be a scorpius/aeryn shipper by default, so we'll just move very swiftly on, i think... (but as for why it's connected - she was lying to scorpy to save john, or so she said - just as christine had to do, basically, to save raoul.)

~ if GEM was the result of ben reading waaay too much shipperfic (re: that cheesy ending) then JQ was the result of him reading far, far, far too much sillyfic...

~ i think that's pretty much it.  oh, except to say that in even the most insane episode yet, they managed to give us our daily dose of angst and bring it back 'down to earth' (or down to moya, i guess) with that closing scene.  it's not revealed if john /did/ take noranti's whatever-that-was or not, but either way, he's being a complete frellnik to aeryn.  (not that he doesn't have a right to, of course, but that's neither here nor there...)  and there's still something up with aeryn; i just wish i could figure out what.

"John Quixote" was Death By Pop Culture in the most wonderful way, y'know... I probably could have analysed it even more, but it was getting stupidly long already.

Terra Firma

and if we ever thought going to earth would be easy, here's the answer...

first of all - the president's man (forgot his actual title) who greeted him on moya - he looked a lot like the cigarette smoking man from "the x-files". nice touch ;)

let's see, where to start, where to start... tricky. i'll begin with the humorous elements of this:

sikozu spitting out the peach (or apple, i couldn't quite tell what), rygel pigging out, noranti and her "cop porn" * sniggers * (and her singing. further proof that the written english word is frelling stupid) and chiana getting drunk. very funny, that.

now for the thing i enjoy most. the angst. hurrah for the angst, for it was there in barrels!

john/jack. just ow. really. he goes to earth and promptly argues with his dad. ouch. and also even more ouch when he had to leave again. :(

the fact that it was christmas seems... well, just so perfect, really. the time of giving, receiving, and good will toward men. and all anyone gave or received was a lot of heartache and pain. the good will toward men part seemed to have vanished, too. (and i knew that somewhere, there'd have to be something to do with mistletoe. i was just hoping it would involve aeryn, not caroline. more on that later.) "merry frelling christmas" indeed. well said, aeryn.

grayza's john-catcher creature looks, on reflection, a lot like natira. someone care to check the credits and see? far from feeling sorry for braca (okay, maybe the second time...), i cackled at grayza's explanation :) and i thought, as the creature was dying "it's going to blow up braca's brain! ha!!". but i'm just a sadist... also - THEY KILLED DK?! they can't do that!!!

sikozu/scorp - i renounce any previous statements i may have made about them being amusing and/or disturbing. they are, i realise, utterly adorable. scorpius' self-sacrifice, whatever his reasons or motives, obviously hurt her feelings, and a double-suicide is almost as good as convincing him not to go through with it, in my opinion.

and finally, on we go to the john/aeryn relationship, and all attached angst. ow, ow, and thrice ow. ow. really. all those earthfics with hugs and puppies were way off the mark, seriously. i seethed at caroline almost constantly right up until the moment she tried to fix things for aeryn (and jack, at least, tried, although not very well.) i screamed in frustration both times they got interrupted in That Conversation. and just watching aeryn trying to struggle her way through emotions she's still having trouble comprehending, in a relationship with a species she's only just scratched the surface of, was too painful for words. kudos, claudia and ben.

i think that's about all i can think of say right now, that i can remember, anyway. oh, and what do we reckon are the odds that we're not going to find out what they got john as presents?

The first post about this one, I imagine, was probably incoherent expressions of joy.  I can vividly remember literally jumping around the room and squeeing after the episode.  Twice Shy

so.  as denoted by previous post, i'm just a tad happy about that one...  in fact, i'm still shaking too much to type, but at least i'm now vaguely more coherent.  farscape + chocolate + cola = hyperminh.  it's not pretty.

okay, firstly.  this was familiar, for two reasons.  firstly, i couldn't help but see it as a cross between CDM and BOD.  then, it struck me what it was.  the shameless "red dwarf" plot stealing remains - this was 'polymorph'!!!  i even scribbled it down on a piece of paper so i wouldn't forget when i came to do this :)

okay.  it's a good thing when, whilst watching the "previously on", you can pretty much figure out the feeling of the episode - thus, i realised it was going to be a) angsty and b) to do with scorpius, to some degree.  and i was right :)

so.  yes. it was 'polymorph' - shape-shifting creature (hence BOD) making the crew feel their extreme emotions (CDM - nice inter-referencing!  "is she pulling a t'raltixx?") which are then sucked out for food.  yup, that's the polymorph.  although possibly a more attractive one.

right... okay, so to summarise - john had his hope removed.  john without hope is not a pretty sight.  and to be honest, nor was john with blind hope thinking he and aeryn were 'fine' (even if he turned out to be right. more on that later.)

aeryn, it appears, had her cold, hard peacekeeperish emotions removed, explaining why she was suddenly the borg queen around john.  that was cruel, guys.  ouch.

chiana.  *coughs lightly* well, if we ever had any questions about her sexuality, they were answered in this one.  ever since the androgyn in 'fractures'...  and then, less amusingly, chiana without her libido is a broken shell, which really wasn't nice to watch.  it made me realise just how much that's a part of who she is.

d'argo was quite funny both when he was in need of anger management, and when he was mellow.  (which is exactly the d'argo i pictured in my cookie monster fic, SO MUCH!)

rygel... was rygel, only a less/more pleasant version each time.

sikozu and noranti clearly were of no interest to the polymorph lady (i forgot her name already. bad me.)  noranti, because she's too old "and bitter", and sikozu, because apparently it was more fun to rip her arms and legs off.  anyone get the impression she was one of those kids who pulled the legs off bugs for fun?

scorpius.  hm... okay, so he's still a bad guy. but i'm inclined not to care at this point, for reasons i'll explain in a moment.  however, was all the drool really necessary?  i mean, really?  we've already had vomit this season...

and finally:

and you knew this was coming... ;)

...the shippiness.

after all the absolutely hideous angst between john and aeryn in TF last week, we deserved this. and my god it was worth the wait, too. i'm still hysterically bouncing up and down. in fact, i'm shaking. seriously. i think my entire corridor is about ready to institutionalise me from all the manic giggling.

*big shippy sigh* wow. all that heart-wrenching painful angst and then this. and instead of relief (well, okay, as well as) i'm euphoric. "yay" cannot do this justice. i can tell what i'm going to be re-watching tonight.

and, of course, there is that little issue of scorpius being a back-stabbing fekkik. however...

scorpy/sikozu. aw! awwww! they have become almost too adorable for words. i was dubious at first, when they had a relationship based entirely on scary flirting, but now? i realised that i'm sort of watching scorpius falling in love with her, which is also as scary, but in a really, really sweet way. all the warm fuzzies i got from those two can make me ignore and suitably not care about the fact that he's still an enemy.

*big enormous shippy-induced grin*

bring me more! now!

I can't remember what the abbreviation stands for.  Help?  Either way, this was in two posts... 

ACOD

First:
okay, that frelling rocked!

especially the end credits *big grin*

it's my turn to be righteously indignant and shout "they cancelled this?" very loud. that was all incredibly cool, and, wow, introspective much? you so rarely see issues like any of those covered today in science fiction, or anything - underage sex, religion, war, killing because you have to... so very cool...

and it just showed so wonderfully how people will edit together anything for their own twisted cause - no matter how innocently bobby's video footage may have portrayed our intrepid crew, it wouldn't have mattered. they could have had every single one of them saying "no, we're not going to invade" and the shrinks would have interpreted it as the opposite.

the whole thing with sikozu and the silver bowl was fantastic; just one of those moments when suddenly everything falls into place and you go "oohhh" and, okay, john is so desperate he's going to swap help as to aeryn's whereabouts for wormholes? to scorpius? geez...

wantmorenow!

Second:
referring to chiana - it was weird, actually. in the context of what is considered 'normal' human behaviour, chi is definitely not all there, mentally... but in the context of moya, it's just who she is. on earth she was attempting to adapt to a culture that, to her, is strange and probably too moral (her observations about young girls' fashion, for example) and to anyone observing that, it seems like she's having trouble adjusting. chi doesn't understand the concept of makeup, because her skin tone is naturally 'made up', just as zhaan's and jool's were before, and sikozu's is now. makeup, remember, is not readily available in the middle of either the UTs or tormented space...

and don't forget, chi went through all that nebari mind cleansing before joining moya's crew, so it's bound to have left her a little frelled in the head anyway.

the rat thing was so poignant. it's like a chiana-perspective on humans and pets; she doesn't understand the line between 'pet' and 'pest' (after all, it's literally only a one-phoneme difference) and can't understand how it's bizarre to bobby, or the reasoning behind his disbelieving "is that a dead rat?"

she seemed to have the most trouble adjusting, which surprised me. sikozu just took it in her stride - in fact, i highly doubt she wanted to be there at all and was probably only helpful in the fact she can already speak english; noranti just went with the flow (delia smith on acid, anyone?); rygel treated earth the same as he treats everything else - as a subordinate culture designed around his every whim; d'argo was clearly trying his damnedest to fit in, despite being possibly the most 'alien'-looking of all of them; and aeryn was frelling fantastic. who'd have thought she'd end up in a diplomatic argument on national television, making logical and rational points?

earth and its morals are like the binary opposite of chiana. i just can't believe i never realised that before now...

i'm sure there was another point i was going to make, but now i can't remember what it was... other than the fact that the more i think about this one, the better it gets, and i haven't even re-watched it yet. it was so fantastically introspective, and a complete joy to watch, with kemper pointing out all the flaws of our own little rock that nobody dared to think about before now. it's just such a shame it was filmed before all the current political mess came to light; i think kemper and his team could have done wonders with that, too, from an alien perspective...

"They cancelled this?" indeed.  This is the only fandom to capture my thoughts and imagination to such a degree... although having said that, I can harp on about shippiness forever, as my posts about such demonstrated.  I'm hoping, though, when I finally get around to my big X-Files re-watching, that I'll be able to think about them as much as I did for Farscape.  There are, after all, nine seasons' worth of it. :)

And, finally, with a heavy heart...

Bad Timing

This was my first, incoherent post, immediately following the episode:
you know, i don't think i can bear it...

i may stop crying at some point next year. and that's a long shot.

but for now - i did love the way stark completely epitomised the scaper community for the entire episode - cowering in the corner, panicking... as did d'argo, at the end.

and the opening clips. am i correct in assuming there was one for every episode? it looked like it...

and.

*whimpers. a lot*

theythey... christ ...

can't do it. can't.

And this was my second one, once I'd recovered my faculties enough to form proper sentences:
since my original (although admittedly incoherent) post is now buried on about page 3... here's the more understandable version...

~ loved the opening.  i'm going to rewatch to ascertain if there was a clip for every episode.  and crichton's "and finally, on farscape" was beautifully done...

~ the whole conversation about commitment was interesting, with the viewpoints of chiana and d'argo, and aeryn's "no, this wasn't about us!".  also chiana's idea of sex being the answer to everything.  "with you or with him?"  "whichever..."

~ once again, all the references to timing, so true on all counts.  which is also true of stark, in general, in this episode - one minute he was cowering in the corner, looking shell-shocked, then noranti said he'd passed out, and then he was panicking and also talking about it all being too fast.  he completely epitomised the fan community, whether it was intentional or not.

~ was wondering what happened to chiana's visions.  although i wasn't anticipating them to leave her blind possibly forever.  frellniks.

~ john and harvey as rabbits was certainly interesting...  and a completely fabulous injoke, i've just realised, to the original origination of the 'harvey' nickname (except that john was the completely white rabbit and harvey was the one with the pink stomach. they're frelling with our minds, and it's wonderful...)

(if that made no sense - "harvey", jimmy stewart, watch it... utterly adorable.)

~ sikozu and scorp.  whee! she didn't break his heart, and for that, i am grateful.  (neither did he break hers by running off with braca - incidentally, what a pervert, watching them like that :P)  however, i've gone from revered 'aw'ing to being mildly disturbed... but at least they're happy and not frelling vapourised.  grr... more on that in a moment...

~ the sobbing started with pilot saying he might not survive. i thought for sure they'd kill him and moya off at that stage.  then it sort of settled down again into mild whimpering, as the scene with aeryn and john in the hangar so completely reflected the end of DWTB last season.  wow.  seriously.

~ then the sobbing started up again with john saying goodbye to his father.  and then i was literally crying my eyes out when i thought they'd killed pilot, and the relief when they hadn't.  god...  and then i realised there were only 10 minutes left. (and i loved the fact that the wormhole ate the scarrens :D)

~ okay, you know what?  this is fine.  we can very easily just watch to aeryn's acceptance (euphoric sobbing going on there, along with huge sighs of relief when we finally knew the baby was john's...) and then stop the tape before the Bad Things start.  d'argo narrating the action to chiana was lovely, as was the fact that she was the only one who understood what was going on, blind as she was.  never have i gone from euphoria to hysterical bawling so fast.  never.

christ...

they're not dead.  they're not..  nope.  denial's just a river in egypt...

I didn't expect it to end up as long as it did... but at least, with nifty LJ-cutting, it hasn't completely killed everyone's friendslists. :)

I hope this foray into my old fangirlishness was entertaining, anyway.

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Date: 2006-04-06 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teylaminh.livejournal.com
For some reason, I remembered that, like, a day later. Possibly, I dreamt about it...
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