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My theory, as I've often said, is that Travel West Midlands is actually the Devil incarnate. By that logic, the black cabs are Mephistopheles, the Tempter; they lie in wait on the coldest nights of the year when your bus hasn't turned up, luring you into their warm interiors with the promise of a speedy return home for ten times the price.

It appears that the various rail companies are in on it as well. By this reasoning, TWM clearly cannot be the Devil, merely one of his more incompetent messengers. Public Transport in general is the Devil, with Richard Branson as his cackling and sadistic sidekick (imagine the South Park movie but with Richard Branson in place of Saddam Hussein...)

Things I have discovered this morning in my hunt for cheap travel to London by train:

  1. Cheap train travel to London doesn't exist. Possibly a given, but anyway...

  2. Virgin, as you may have noticed, are proudly advertising their Amazing Train Service, whereupon you can travel from Birmingham to London Euston in a mere 90 minutes! And it's true: you can. I've been on a Virgin train to London, and it does only take 90 minutes. Unfortunately, it's nigh on impossible to get a seat because half of the train is First Class and half of what remains is taken up with reserved seats. The reason people reserve seats is because it's impossible to get one otherwise; as you can imagine, one can only appreciate this irony when one is not squashed up against the window in that little niche by the door...

  3. Despite this Amazing Train Service to London - which only takes 90 minutes - if you want to come home again (and why on Earth would you want to do that? London is the only place anyone should ever want to be!) it takes twice as long! Which explains why when I came home from Eni's in February I didn't get back until about 9.30, despite leaving Essex at 6.30 (and it's only 45 minutes back into London from there)... Er, a bit of a con, Mr Branson?

  4. Not only this, Virgin will charge you £50 for the privilege of travelling on one of their "comfortable" (cramped, fully-booked and half-empty because of First Class) trains, so you can get to London super-fast! (unless you want to come home, sorry, that'll take longer). Up yours, Virgin.

  5. As a result of which, if I want to leave London at 9.30 in the evening on Saturday, I have one of two options: changing twice in the middle of the night, or not getting home until gone 1.00am. Exactly HOW is this meant to be acceptable when I'm paying over £50 for a ticket?

  6. Oh, but it gets better. Chiltern have a better idea about train times, at least (the 21.40 train gets back at 00.01 with no changes), and they are a lot cheaper for only a slightly longer journey (8.55 departure arrives at 11.06). The rich people can stick with Virgin, ta. However... their Incredibly Useful and Wonderful Off-Peak Open Return used to be a nice friendly £15.00, and the restrictions were actually doable. It has now gone up to £18.00 with a restriction of arriving in London after 1.45pm. The problem? Our matinee show starts at 2.30. It doesn't allow for any kind of delay either on the journey there or with the tubes, so just NO.

  7. Chiltern charge £29.50 for a day return. It's still better than Virgin.


Going by coach or Megabus would be an option but then we're very limited by the travel times and also, it takes three hours to get there and always gets caught in traffic on Baker Street / Oxford Street, without fail. Occasionally they'll let you off at Marble Arch just before it gets to Victoria, but it's rare.

All of this wouldn't be problem if the hotels in London weren't Hellaciously Expensive as well, thus scuppering plans of making a weekend of it. I'm trying to SAVE money, and Public Transport is making that very difficult. Maybe... and in all actuality this may be true... maybe London is the Devil. It would explain a LOT.

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Date: 2008-10-03 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiesjottings.livejournal.com
I will never never be able to understand why there are so many first class seats, nearly all of them empty! In fact I would go so far as to say... do away with first class altogether. It is an anachronism in the 21st century. Other train companies don't have as much first class accomodation. For all their misedemeanours, Worst Great Western don't.

That Marylebone line is one of the best as far as punctuality is concerned, my friend Sue always uses it when she goes to London. Oxford is going to have a train service to Marylebone via that line sometime soonish.

I am so lucky, we have an excellent bus service to London from here and the buses stop right outside my house too.

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Date: 2008-10-03 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teylaminh.livejournal.com
I think the B'ham Moor St to Marylebone line goes through Oxford, but not all the time.

Virgin are rubbish... I used to have to get the Virgin train from Birmingham to Newcastle when I went back to Derby on Sundays, and it was always packed, more often than not because the one before had been cancelled. Or it didn't turn up at all and ended up turning into a bus, which took about three hours because it had to stop at all the other stations along the way.

Useless.

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Date: 2008-10-04 01:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] translucent.livejournal.com

Travelled on it lots, don't think it ever goes through Oxford.
Can you not bag an advance ticket?

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Date: 2008-10-04 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teylaminh.livejournal.com
I did attempt to get one of those uber-cheap 'mobile' tickets, but alas, not on the date I want to go, so I presume you either need to book it about a year in advance or it doesn't count on Saturdays. I'll book them online today anyway - it's no cheaper, but at least I can reserve seats.

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Date: 2008-10-04 12:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] translucent.livejournal.com

Oh shit yeah, I think they DON'T do them on weekends. Tits.

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Date: 2008-10-03 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefleshfailure.livejournal.com
Maybe... and in all actuality this may be true... maybe London is the Devil.

Only been saying that for years, y'know. ;)

Actually, it's not. Julie Andrews is the Devil. London is the Underworld in which she resides.

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Date: 2008-10-04 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joetimewaster.livejournal.com
^^^ I thought that was Avril Lavigne??

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Date: 2008-10-04 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joetimewaster.livejournal.com
...and any option is probably cheaper than driving down given the cost of petrol, parking and a possible congestion charge.

Silverlink used to go to Euston for not much money (we used it numerous times). I just had a quick look and off peak was nearly 30 quid.

Plus you're right about the hotels...aren't there any cheap B&Bs available?

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Date: 2008-10-05 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teylaminh.livejournal.com
Already tried to find a cheap B&B - the only cheap ones available are on the outskirts of London or out by Heathrow, so a bit of a jaunt to where we want to be...

Chiltern still do the cheapest tickets, in any rate, and at least they don't con you into thinking your return journey'll be as quick as the outbound...
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